Mk1 16v KR ZX9R bike carbs :)

s**t son, that a pretty major failure bits of piston etc down in the sump i take it?

Holy crap man


Sure it wont take ya long to swap the other engine in

yeah, it was a pretty big failure! yeah i had a look down in there and there's bits of metal everywhere i done a proper job! on the hunt for a decent engine now the other kr engine i've got was only going to be used to be rebuilt, it was smoky on start up, but at £50 for the engine and gearbox i couldn't turn it down.
may even go for an abf. we will see

Whaaaat the eff dude. You have done well there! You know a 20vt makes sense Plus possibly a bit more robust, but i'm sure you could prove me wrong

Lupton_20vt wrote:

Whaaaat the eff dude. You have done well there! You know a 20vt makes sense Plus possibly a bit more robust, but i'm sure you could prove me wrong

If everything you have the best lupton? first the box in the other thread not engine

Poss get a 6/9a mate, short bloke so less hassle than an ABF

Lupton_20vt wrote:

Whaaaat the eff dude. You have done well there! You know a 20vt makes sense Plus possibly a bit more robust, but i'm sure you could prove me wrong

There's probably still bits of engine on Haverhill bypass right now 20v would be a nice idea, but I wanna keep away from ecu's and keep it simple. I've got some carbs on the way now so I may aswell get some use out of them

matty_mk1 wrote:

Lupton_20vt wrote:

Whaaaat the eff dude. You have done well there! You know a 20vt makes sense Plus possibly a bit more robust, but i'm sure you could prove me wrong

If everything you have the best lupton? first the box in the other thread not engine

Poss get a 6/9a mate, short bloke so less hassle than an ABF

Is the 9a from a corrado? I know there's a 2.0 16v rado for sale on here. May be worth buying and then selling off the rest. I've got lots of ideas going through my head

yeah 9a from corrados. the 6a is the audi version with slight differences apparently

3 cylinder 14v ftw ;-) 

so you figured why it happened?

cam belt skipped teeth?

Major failure where the fucks the piston

9a is what i'am running mate
Abf is what simon has


If you go 9a then it's a straight swap, just use the kr cams if they haven't already been fitted. If you go down the abf route, you'll need to make adjustments to your exhaust manifold due to it being 16mm taller. Dubpower do a new stainless manifold for abf now so that's always an option if you got the cash

If it were me I'd go ABF mate. I've done a couple of conversions using it.

Leave it on the kjet, rebuild your old head (if it can take it, if not I'm sure I can find a cheapy to rebuild) port match it (inlet and exhaust) and knife edge the throttle body.
Put a four branch manifold on it and expect power in the region of 180+ brake.
Every single one of those ponies will be nice reliable unstressed ones.
Not biting at the chomp trying to self destruct ones.

If you're not sure about manifold clearance issues (hence four branch) then look for an audi 6a, less likely to have been abused than the more common 9a and all your current parts swap straight over.
They are rev happy and very similar to the kr, they are peaky unlike the abf which produces power progressively throughout the rev range (doesnt feel as fast but very very good torque (read as quicker in right hands))

Both of these engine can worry a standard box so beware of early diff bearing failure (leaking diff seals) later boxes are a good option.

Short of throwing a rod out the side thats one of the most epic failures I've evry seen....good effort.

look very broke. not bad for just poodling along hey haha

bridgedubber wrote:

so you figured why it happened?

cam belt skipped teeth?

im not sure what caused it to be honest, i think the engine just couldn't handle the abuse anymore and imploded :(

mk1g60phill wrote:

Major failure where the fucks the piston

Haverhill bypass i think bits of metal were in the exhaust manifold aswell, may have spat bits out onto the road

CaddyRage wrote:

9a is what i'am running mate
Abf is what simon has


If you go 9a then it's a straight swap, just use the kr cams if they haven't already been fitted. If you go down the abf route, you'll need to make adjustments to your exhaust manifold due to it being 16mm taller. Dubpower do a new stainless manifold for abf now so that's always an option if you got the cash

i'm tempted by the 9a to be honest, what's the benefits of using the kr cams? just on the hunt for a decent donor engine now

On paper, the kr and 9a are the same bhp mate. They toned down the 9a due to having catalytic convertors. They just fitted softer cams.

Swapping to kr cams tops them upto around 150bhp apparently.

Abf is 150 standard but you keep the cams in that.

Obviously the 4 branch and quality air filter will add more. Mine ran 164bhp with injection set up properly


Adding carbs will be a new ball game though

cheers for all the advice and help from everyone

i've decided to get the spare engine rebuilt by ivor searles i just want something that will last, instead of buying another second hand engine that could go pop within another couple of months

whilst im saving my pennies i can take advantage of the car being off the road by putting my new dash in, and properly tidying up the inside of the car. may have to do something with the grotty engine bay aswell

here's how it sits at the moment, seems a standard process for cars i've owned just lately



engine stripped and ready to be sent away



on a plus side, these come today

Dude. If your going to have an engine rebuilt, defo get yaself a 2L bottom end or have the 1.8 bored to 1.9. makes sense to spend the money and get more bhp at the same time. You know you'll soon get used to it and want more anyway

What carbs you go for?

yeah that's very true, i may have to see how much that will cost, im going for a ported head as part of the rebuild aswell, so i may aswell go the whole hog.

the carbs are from a zx9r hoping to get a nice reliable 160-170 bhp from that set up i just look forward to the sound more than anything

Dude. Simon(mk1g60) runs the ZX9R carbs. Maybe check his build thread again as i'am sure he can help you get yours set up nice.

You'll have more than 170 with a 2l mate

Looks like you did a proper job there dude!

Maybe it's just all Lhasa cars hate you?

CaddyRage wrote:

Dude. Simon(mk1g60) runs the ZX9R carbs. Maybe check his build thread again as i'am sure he can help you get yours set up nice.

You'll have more than 170 with a 2l mate

Oh yeah, I forgot he runs them aswell. I will have a look through and see how he's getting on with them. I will try and have a nose around his car if he's at spring fest

VW Mike wrote:

Looks like you did a proper job there dude!

It was a rather major failure

whittle wrote:

Maybe it's just all Lhasa cars hate you?

Don't think it's the colour dude, I think it's just the badge doesn't mix well with my right foot

Got a couple of little updates on this, my carbon sunroof panel turned up friday







Then got my car up on axle stands to take the wheels off. I'm not really feeling the satin black anymore, so started rubbing them down today



Roped in a couple of helpers much appreciated as boredom was kicking in after the 1st wheel



Just basically keyed them up to put a bit of gloss black on there. Got fed up of cleaning wheels that look exactly the same as they did when they were dirty!



I still don't like the way the car sits either, so i've ghetto cambered the rear for now. i'll see how it goes when it's back on the road



should give it enough, without looking too gay!



also had some standard rears turn up from egay! turned out to be damaged. Brilliant




That's it for this weekend, going to start cleaning the engine bay next weekend, nothing amazing, but just a freshen up as a previous owner thought it would look smart to hand paint the bay in some gash army green

Found some rear lights as spring fest last weekend they aren't 100% but they are a million times better than the terrible green ones i had on there.
I snapped up the 2 sets i could find in the auto jumble. 1 set were standard, and the other had slightly tinted indicators. Tried both on to see which looked best.
I personally prefer the standard ones. Might get some red tinting spray and do the other one's all red and see what they look like.




Then i thought i would try a wheel on the back to see how much difference a washer could make!



Quite a bit!



Undecided on wheel colour aswell at the moment. i will change my mind 10 times before i go ahead with it!

Also got myself a new set of clocks to replace the terrible white peeling dials i have in there at the moment!



Also seriously considering the 2.0 bottom end now for mine, will they bolt straight up to the kr head? going to need all the ponies i can get if i'm to keep up with a mates DC5 integra powered civic





That is all for now Saving money is so frustrating!!

That civic is full of win, K20 ftw!

But anywho you golf is looking awesome are your rims getting powdercoated or painted may i ask?