"Sesil" The Mk4 20VT

yeah maybe its me driving like a granny then

maybe

honestly though, for your own safety fit one,

the arb holds the body square. if you remove it the car will roll from side to side much more and you will loose grip.

Also its much easier to roll a car without an arb.

i see what your saying Tom but there is little difference. When I roll into a ditch you can tell me i tld you so

do you happen to have forza 3?

its so well made that the physics are almost exactly as would be in real life

go on it, get in any car and buy a roll bar from the handling shop thing and try to roll it by doing handbrake corners etc

then take the arb off and try to roll it

then come back and tell me how right i am.

f**k what am i going to do if a computer game says im going to crash it must be right i give you permission to rub it in my face if i do though Tom

thermal wrote:

do you happen to have forza 3?

its so well made that the physics are almost exactly as would be in real life

go on it, get in any car and buy a roll bar from the handling shop thing and try to roll it by doing handbrake corners etc

then take the arb off and try to roll it

then come back and tell me how right i am.

you must be joking!

the car will have a low center of gravity once slammed so surely it will be the same as a standard height mk4 with a arb? if you get me

Lupton_20vt wrote:

Settled down today, got tomorrow of uni so ill wind it all the way down on the front and remove the rings out the back adjusters

Say goodbye to the LCR splitter then.
If you wind it all the way down on the front, either the car wont move due to splitter scraping, or it'll just clear the front and as soon as you go over a cats eye you'll lose the splitter.

If there was a slight dimple in the road before a cats-eye, my front valance would hit the little rubber housing...



And that was all the way down on the front.

billybug wrote:

thermal wrote:

do you happen to have forza 3?

its so well made that the physics are almost exactly as would be in real life

go on it, get in any car and buy a roll bar from the handling shop thing and try to roll it by doing handbrake corners etc

then take the arb off and try to roll it

then come back and tell me how right i am.

you must be joking!

the car will have a low center of gravity once slammed so surely it will be the same as a standard height mk4 with a arb? if you get me

True

but thats not the point im trying to make

im on balloon tyres though Stamps the lcr splitter is no lower than the bumper section anyway. It just sticks out more.

My strutbrace will help that Tom

Lupton_20vt wrote:

My strutbrace will help that Tom

Strutbrace serves a different function mate

strutbrace hold the chassis taught

an arb holds the wheels on the opposite axle against the floor

thermal wrote:

arb hold the wheels straight

2 words

duck tape

;-)

kit its £100 you might as well do it. they fit up with the standard drop links and trust me they do make a difference

Get a rear ARB on it too and see how much difference it makes all the under steer goes and you get much better turn in.

Even with a very low Mk4 without the front ARB it will body roll around corners and handle like crap............VW wouldn't of fitted one from the factory if it wasn't worth it

Ian83 wrote:

Get a rear ARB on it too and see how much difference it makes all the under steer goes and you get much better turn in.

Even with a very low Mk4 without the front ARB it will body roll around corners and handle like crap............VW wouldn't of fitted one from the factory if it wasn't worth it

Why didnt they fit a back one then? Yeah ill look into it though. Max how would you know you never drove with yours off

The simple answer chris, is that your car is not goin to kill you and all of a sudden roll over because you dont have the anti-roll bar fitted. Peeps in the US have run wihtout them for ages with no real issues

But yes have 1 will improve handling, but it aint a track car is it

Lupton_20vt wrote:

Ian83 wrote:

Get a rear ARB on it too and see how much difference it makes all the under steer goes and you get much better turn in.

Even with a very low Mk4 without the front ARB it will body roll around corners and handle like crap............VW wouldn't of fitted one from the factory if it wasn't worth it

Why didnt they fit a back one then? Yeah ill look into it though. Max how would you know you never drove with yours off

There is actually a back one fitted from the factory but it's not like the after-market ones which bolt to the rear shock bases. It's fitted inside the axle where you cant see it. But it's a stupidly small diameter so isn't effect

I think you will only really notice the difference if you drive the car fast around bends but if you drive like Miss Daisy like people say you will be ok

awesome ill be fine then

matty_mk1 wrote:

But yes have 1 will improve handling, but it aint a track car is it

Exactly.
If it was a 400 bhp monster then I'd say get one.
As its 150 bhp (give or take) then you're more likely to roll it due to driving like a tw@t.

well seems you guys were right i rolled it into a ditch tonight.



















































Took the rear adjuster plates out today so its sitting pretty even now slight nose down stance

thermal wrote:

Lupton_20vt wrote:

My strutbrace will help that Tom

Strutbrace serves a different function mate

strutbrace hold the chassis taught

arb hold the wheels straight

An ARB does not hold the wheels straight.... and the only function of a strutbrace like that is to look pretty and lighten your wallet.

Tiz wrote:

An ARB does not hold the wheels straight.... and the only function of a strutbrace like that is to look pretty and lighten your wallet.

Tiz, you seem to make claims like this left right and centre which have no grounding, justification nor fact.

thermal wrote:

Tiz wrote:

An ARB does not hold the wheels straight.... and the only function of a strutbrace like that is to look pretty and lighten your wallet.

Tiz, you seem to make claims like this left right and centre which have no grounding, justification nor fact.

ha you no him well and you've never met him

curtis_caddy wrote:

thermal wrote:

Tiz wrote:

An ARB does not hold the wheels straight.... and the only function of a strutbrace like that is to look pretty and lighten your wallet.

Tiz, you seem to make claims like this left right and centre which have no grounding, justification nor fact.

ha you no him well and you've never met him

;-)