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bob_drinks_beer

bob_drinks_beer


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PostSubject: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 13:24

at some point in the not too far futre i want to get more power out the polo.

im looking into cams and a remap, and it seems to be more money than i was expecting... (knew it wouldnt be cheap)

so then i started thinking about turboing or supercharging it (getting parts from scrapy/making bits up plus a mate has got a T25 turbo hes not using that needs new seals)

really dunno which route to go down...

anyone got any advice/sugestions?
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 13:29

Dunno if youll acheive too much from a remap, being N/A. if i was you id be heading in 1 direction at full speed, and thats straight for the nearest eaton m45 Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 13:31

To be honest if it's a 1.4 16v there's not a lot you're going to get out of it worth the money you end up paying.

A home-brew turbo would be good, but will the engine take the extra abuse?

I would look into a conversion of some sort, but that's a lot of money too
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 13:33

1.8t would be savage! get a 225 lump!
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 13:43

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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 14:15

matty_mk1 wrote:
Dunno if youll acheive too much from a remap, being N/A. if i was you id be heading in 1 direction at full speed, and thats straight for the nearest eaton m45 Very Happy

Amen,

Eaton charger, a couple of head gaskets, weld up a 5th injector holder and get a 5th injector controller, possibly an intercooler off of a R5 of somthing, a few tubes ect and ya bracket, sorted. Although thats a very pikey way of doing it lol.
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 14:57

Haha ghetto forced induction ftw
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bob_drinks_beer

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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 15:26

not keen on the idea of doing a conversion, wanna keep the car light and ballanced and i think a 1.8t etc would make it too nose heavy. would be quick in a straight line tho!
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 15:29

hasekna wrote:
matty_mk1 wrote:
Dunno if youll acheive too much from a remap, being N/A. if i was you id be heading in 1 direction at full speed, and thats straight for the nearest eaton m45 Very Happy

Amen,

Eaton charger, a couple of head gaskets, weld up a 5th injector holder and get a 5th injector controller, possibly an intercooler off of a R5 of somthing, a few tubes ect and ya bracket, sorted. Although thats a very pikey way of doing it lol.

i was thinking of an eaton tbh.

what does the 5th injector do and where would it go?
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 15:46

defintiely 1.8T its the really the only way thats sensible, everything else will be major hassle
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 15:51

pinky wrote:
defintiely 1.8T its the really the only way thats sensible, everything else will be major hassle

id call fittin a 1.8t in a polo major hassle! lol i know its been done a few time tho.

im not after huge amounts of power, just a bit more than ive got now.
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 15:54

pinky wrote:
defintiely 1.8T its the really the only way thats sensible, everything else will be major hassle

Haha 1.8t into a polo is major hassle Razz
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 16:00

if you wanna keep it revvyish and fun without spending too much money you could cam it, loads of head work, port match everything, a good exhaust manifold and system and a custom remap or if you can afford throttlebodies.

but will still probably be more than charging it, to make N/A more powerful it just becomes lumpy, peaky and horrible to drive.
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 16:03

theres that show mk4 the flip paint one, 350 bhp or something disgusting in a polo, now that would be a beast!
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 16:10

ha well if you have the cash its probaly just wise paying someone to do it, there was a guy on CP doing a turbo conversion who was doing it all properly I don't really see the point myself though.
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 16:46

pinky wrote:
ha well if you have the cash its probaly just wise paying someone to do it, there was a guy on CP doing a turbo conversion who was doing it all properly I don't really see the point myself though.

dont you own a sewing machine with a hair drier on it? Razz geek


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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 16:47

My advice is if you can't afford cams and a remap to gain more power, I wouldn't bother in looking into a decent forced induction conversion as this will also require cams and remap if you want to do it properly
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 16:55

Tiz wrote:
pinky wrote:
ha well if you have the cash its probaly just wise paying someone to do it, there was a guy on CP doing a turbo conversion who was doing it all properly I don't really see the point myself though.

dont you own a sewing machine with a hair drier on it? Razz geek

Sorry what?
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 16:58

you said you dont see the point in tuning it, just thought it was a little hypocritical coming from a g40 owner
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 17:00

Side tracking from the original post now, But I have to ask....

Why is tuning a G40 pointless then?
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 17:19

I see no point in converting a NA engine to forced induction well not that engine anyway, fact is theres some massive power gains to be had out of a G40 engine and I thought you knew a little bit about VW engines?
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 18:06

Henry wrote:
My advice is if you can't afford cams and a remap to gain more power, I wouldn't bother in looking into a decent forced induction conversion as this will also require cams and remap if you want to do it properly
its not that i cant afford them, its more that i dont want to tune it as an n/a, only to find i could've spent the money more wisely on a turbo/supercharger set up.

i realise the costs involved in both.
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 18:23

henry, you g40 before you put back to standard was a monster!
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PostSubject: Re: decisions...   decisions... EmptyThu Apr 23 2009, 21:26

if you read it again i NEVER said g40s were pointless etc i think they are awesome i just thought you was saying tuning a small engine was pointless and therefore was pointing out what you said thats all. I do know a bit about vw engines Cool
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