1.8 - 2.0L 16v- help me make the right decision

ok!

whats the power difference between a 2l 16v and a 1.8l 16v?

whats better to put in the complete 2l 16v unit or put the head off of the 1.8 onto the 2l bottom end?

i ask this because altho im not scared to get my hands dirty and i have changed an engine before, ive never tried to put in a different than original engine. so i need to know how difficult both options would be???

has anyone done this?

9a bottom end with a KR head is supposed to be a good combo.

Or a complete ABF engine(mk3 gti) running on your standard Kjet and the cams from your KR now that would be a good engine.


Power difference isnt massive between the 2.0 and the 1.8 its more the torque increase that you get and also at the end of the day you have more tuneability as you have already gone to a bigger sized engine so you wont have the 1.8 capacity limiting your power.


But if you want VR eating power try an ABF loads of tuning posibilites then too. And you will already have the cams from your KR to make it a bit quicker cause the standards are a bit soft due to being cat friendly.

If i was to ever put another engine in a mk2 as much as i love my lazy massive grunt VR. I would go for a well tuned ABF on throttlebodies. 8k rev limits are within reach with the abf

im asking because ive got a mk3 16v and i dont know what to do with it

that would be an ABF wouldnt it?

whats the 9A bottom end off?

i was thinking of putting the whole lump in my mk2 and using my kr metering head and injection etc to make the swap easier!

so you say it would benefit from a KR cam? how bout a nice shiny kent, piper, schrick etc

my mk2 box should bolt onto the 2l shouldnt it

awesome if you have an ABF get it in. Run the standard metering head and you should run the KR exhaust cam. Well of course you can go after market as well for even more power but i was just saying cause you already have the KR cams so might as well.

9a is out a corrado i believe.

and yes your 020 gearbox will fit the ABF so you wont have to use the hydraulic clutch or cable shift box.

If you have a complete running sweet ABF then drop the lot in and ditch the sh1te k-jet crap. Digifants are much tidier in the bay too.


I'll be investing in a 9A or possibly the audi 6A bottom ends for my valver at some stage.

Cant remember the year your mk2 is ben but the late spec mk2's have the same fuse panels as the mk3 , makes wiring easier

yeah but if you keep kjet its done in a day and kjet is tuneable without remapping so its cheaper. Yeah digi looks better, but kjet is a better system. Digi sucks in my opinion its either kjet, carbs or standalone

Check this out bud, the guys no everything there is to no about k-jet,abf,9A and so on...

http://www.edition38.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=97434

to complete the change then do i need anymore bits then? apart from changing gearbox, metering head etc oh and the cam?

im a bit worried bout wiring side the mk3 engine is covered in wires where as my KR has pretty much none. will i need all the wires?

my golf is an 1989 hazards are on a switch on the dash

cheers powerplant

bridgedubber wrote:

to complete the change then do i need anymore bits then? apart from changing gearbox, metering head etc oh and the cam?

im a bit worried bout wiring side the mk3 engine is covered in wires where as my KR has pretty much none. will i need all the wires?

my golf is an 1989 hazards are on a switch on the dash

Deffo keep the kjet if your hazard is on the dash cause you have CE1 fusebox.. If you wanted to use the digi system(which is sh1te) you would have to convert the car to CE2 fusebox and wiring(not fun)

like tiz said keep the k-jet will be less hassel for ya,

check E38 mk2 section and the lads n lasses will tell ya the abf is so much better in a mk2, and with few engine mods can keep with vr's

As yours is an 89 same as mine why not fit the raddo engine,box steering colum and keep it cable change! and 4 stud with g60 setup!

You will want the raddo with hazzards on the steerin and i will aslo tell ya the the fuse box is all plug n play......so wont need no cutting and chopping to be up n running..


Take a peek on the www.mk2vr6.com and under projescts look for stuff done by sparkz! the boy knows his stuff

powerplant wrote:

like tiz said keep the k-jet will be less hassel for ya,

check E38 mk2 section and the lads n lasses will tell ya the abf is so much better in a mk2, and with few engine mods can keep with vr's

As yours is an 89 same as mine why not fit the raddo engine,box steering colum and keep it cable change! and 4 stud with g60 setup!

You will want the raddo with hazzards on the steerin and i will aslo tell ya the the fuse box is all plug n play......so wont need no cutting and chopping to be up n running..


Take a peek on the www.mk2vr6.com and under projescts look for stuff done by sparkz! the boy knows his stuff

cuz ive got an ABF and a complete mk3 around it to use!

Fair point

Either way ya ABF will keep with most things and make some things look really silly...

planning on doing it anytime soon ben?

edthedrummer wrote:

planning on doing it anytime soon ben?

yeah soon!
may wait for tax to run out in november though!
ive got to arrange it with a m8 cuz hes gonna give a spray as well.....i hope!

why?

just wondered if you needed a pair of hands.

not that far away if you need a bit of help mate.

edthedrummer wrote:

just wondered if you needed a pair of hands.

not that far away if you need a bit of help mate.

cool mate!

yeah that sounds good!

you should pop round sometime for a chat, let me know when your free mate

right in the next few days/weeks i will be putting all my KR bits on to the ABF block.

does any one know what difficulties im going to have.

i mean what sensors etc are gonna need sorting???

please help cuz im trying to do my best here and i am nervous.