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mk2 1300 lil dubber

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PostSubject: banded steels   banded steels EmptyWed May 05 2010, 21:14

anyone on here banded there own steels? i want to get mine done but cant afford the prices, im a pretty good welder but dont have any experience with banded steels so has anyone got any advice details or even a picture heavy thread that they can show/tell me?
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PostSubject: Re: banded steels   banded steels EmptyWed May 05 2010, 21:21

i think banded steel wheels are done on a machine to make sure they are strong enough and are true ....
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PostSubject: Re: banded steels   banded steels EmptyWed May 05 2010, 21:23

yeh they are machine welded but i cant afford that lol there was a massive craze banding steels years ago i think with ppl doing it themselves in there sheds, not having a clue about welding but if they can do it, then i will, just need the details on it thas all
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PostSubject: Re: banded steels   banded steels EmptyWed May 05 2010, 21:29

i think mr whittle (thermal) has home made banded steels and came out real good
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mk2 1300 lil dubber

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PostSubject: Re: banded steels   banded steels EmptyWed May 05 2010, 21:31

billybug wrote:
i think mr whittle (thermal) has home made banded steels and came out real good

aha thank you i shall ask him cheers fella banded steels 51732
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whittle

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PostSubject: Re: banded steels   banded steels EmptyWed May 05 2010, 22:23

I pmed you back but it didnt work

anywho i only did my rears as i bought the front 2 for cheap

i havent put tyres on them yet, so i dont know if the will balance

the g60s have a lip all the way around the inside of the 'dish' so i cut that off with a plasma cutter

then i had 2 2.5" steel plates lazer cut my a local steel work company

these were obviously flat/straight so i bent them around a barrel by hitting them with a hammer

i mounted the wheel to an engine stand which had a swivel end

then i made a 'jig' out of wood and mounted the welder to it

then i simply put them next to each other and spun the wheel in the engine stand slowly while my friend who is a pro welder spot welded the band onto the wheel

then i did the same with the lip that i cut off at the beggining

then once they are all together seam weld all the way around both edges

i would be very careful if you do deciede on doing it man

i havent run mine yet as i said, and im kinda scared.

i have no idea if they will stay together, or if they will even hold air.

also they arnt completely round, they are like 'hexagon' shaped but with more sides obviously

heres pics of them when they were finished on this page;

https://fendubbers.forummotion.com/project-cars-f13/turbo-d-mk1-g60-t7767-285.htm</A>
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PostSubject: Re: banded steels   banded steels EmptyThu May 06 2010, 19:53

cheers for the info fella will be a great help when i get round to doing it
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PostSubject: Re: banded steels   banded steels EmptyThu May 06 2010, 20:00

fogot to ask have you got a pic of the jig u built would be handy making the same for meself if i knew how it looked would help more, and when you got the steel cut how much did it cost to get it done or did you get a freebie? if you dont mine me asking need as much info as i can get lol
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PostSubject: Re: banded steels   banded steels EmptyThu May 06 2010, 20:01

Mate I CAN weld and the finish and the penatration of the weld on these wheels was perfect,
I couldnt replicate that kind of weld without a lot of practice and they have been done really really well.
Its about the most perfect weld I have ever seen, better than I've seen machines chuck out.
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PostSubject: Re: banded steels   banded steels EmptyThu May 06 2010, 20:04

guy wrote:
Mate I CAN weld and the finish and the penatration of the weld on these wheels was perfect,
I couldnt replicate that kind of weld without a lot of practice and they have been done really really well.
Its about the most perfect weld I have ever seen, better than I've seen machines chuck out.

i was looking at the weld as well and tottaly agree i wont even be able to get anything like that no where near as straight either
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PostSubject: Re: banded steels   banded steels EmptyThu May 06 2010, 20:07

mk2 1300 lil dubber wrote:
fogot to ask have you got a pic of the jig u built would be handy making the same for meself if i knew how it looked would help more, and when you got the steel cut how much did it cost to get it done or did you get a freebie? if you dont mine me asking need as much info as i can get lol

the bands were £8 each. any engineering company/steel fabrication company can made some

the 'jig' as i called it is just three pieces of wood nailed together in a H shape on its side

then mounted the welder end with a G clamp
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PostSubject: Re: banded steels   banded steels EmptyThu May 06 2010, 20:09

cheers mate banded steels 51732
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PostSubject: Re: banded steels   banded steels EmptyThu May 06 2010, 20:20

mk2 1300 lil dubber wrote:
guy wrote:
Mate I CAN weld and the finish and the penatration of the weld on these wheels was perfect,
I couldnt replicate that kind of weld without a lot of practice and they have been done really really well.
Its about the most perfect weld I have ever seen, better than I've seen machines chuck out.

i was looking at the weld as well and tottaly agree i wont even be able to get anything like that no where near as straight either

its not quite as good as it looks, its straight as the wheel was bolted to the engine stand, and the welder end was fixed to the wooden jig.

you can see in the photo where the weld didnt penetrate enough first time around and weve gone and added more weld

the welds that we've done are neater than the ones on the wheels which i bought already done.

you cant see the seams (from the outside) on ours, but you can on the ones i bought, it looks like someone has fillered the join to smooth it
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