MK3 BRAKES?

woohh sorry about the caps.

right the other day i went round a corner on a country road and there was a fecking bus overtaking a cyclist on my side of the road (yes it was a blind corner). as you can imagine i stapped on my brakes which were about as useful as an umbrella out the window, didnt even lock up just failed to work well.

barely missed the bus but as you can imagine it shat me up. so i was wondering how much is it to fit abs to my golf (mk3 1.4) and how is it done.

any help would be great

ABS brakes are only supposed to stop you from locking up. They wouldnt necessarily be any better than new normal functioning disc brakes used properly.
So they wouldnt of helped you in that situation.

Change your disc's and buy some quailty pads mate, not tesco value stuff

ow yeah i get that im going to change the pads and disks any ways but i thought i might as well go the whole hog

max wrote:

ow yeah i get that im going to change the pads and disks any ways but i thought i might as well go the whole hog

its cos the ones you have are atill wearing in max. besides they are the size of pound coins anyway to put it bluntly drive slower

Lupton_20vt wrote:

max wrote:

ow yeah i get that im going to change the pads and disks any ways but i thought i might as well go the whole hog

its cos the ones you have are atill wearing in max. besides they are the size of pound coins anyway to put it bluntly drive slower

mate you know i dont drive fast, i was going bloody 55 ! lol

where was it anyway?

abs wont help especially considering the massive amount of work it would be to retro fit to your car. I think on the 1.4 they used 239mm non vented brakes.. you might be lucky and have vented ones. If you want to stop better get bigger brakes. You can get 256mm brakes from early mk3 gti's and all TDi's and 280mm from early VRs, you can also get 256mm from late 16v mk2 golfs etc, an array of seats have 280mm and 256mm brakes.

With a 1.4 256mm would be more than you would ever need, if you want to stay cheap just get all new discs and pads(try and get vented disks and the thinner pads that go with the vented discs)

My 8v has 288mm discs(late 97 reg) and they are MORE than enough as they also fitted them to VRs and 16vs so you shouldnt need massive brakes...

and ive just rambled on and probably made piss all sense so.. yeah lol

Tiz wrote:

abs wont help especially considering the massive amount of work it would be to retro fit to your car. I think on the 1.4 they used 239mm non vented brakes.. you might be lucky and have vented ones. If you want to stop better get bigger brakes. You can get 256mm brakes from early mk3 gti's and all TDi's and 280mm from early VRs, you can also get 256mm from late 16v mk2 golfs etc, an array of seats have 280mm and 256mm brakes.

With a 1.4 256mm would be more than you would ever need, if you want to stay cheap just get all new discs and pads(try and get vented disks and the thinner pads that go with the vented discs)

My 8v has 288mm discs(late 97 reg) and they are MORE than enough as they also fitted them to VRs and 16vs so you shouldnt need massive brakes...

and ive just rambled on and probably made piss all sense so.. yeah lol

yh i understand Tiz

Tiz wrote:

abs wont help especially considering the massive amount of work it would be to retro fit to your car. I think on the 1.4 they used 239mm non vented brakes.. you might be lucky and have vented ones. If you want to stop better get bigger brakes. You can get 256mm brakes from early mk3 gti's and all TDi's and 280mm from early VRs, you can also get 256mm from late 16v mk2 golfs etc, an array of seats have 280mm and 256mm brakes.

With a 1.4 256mm would be more than you would ever need, if you want to stay cheap just get all new discs and pads(try and get vented disks and the thinner pads that go with the vented discs)

My 8v has 288mm discs(late 97 reg) and they are MORE than enough as they also fitted them to VRs and 16vs so you shouldnt need massive brakes...

and ive just rambled on and probably made piss all sense so.. yeah lol

na mate ramblings are very helpful

just one question say i get the 256's would i have to change the callipers also ? or would the larger pads fit in the current ones.

you will need calipers, carriers, discs, pads and sometimes you have to change the hoses. Also if your carriers are cast into the hubs like 8v mk2s then you would need 2 whole hubs as well.. All depends on the current setup i cant remember what they are like on the 1.4s

yours are cast max....

lol yeah thats a lot of cash. i think il just uprate the disks and pads. anyone know any good sites?

cheers tiz, your becoming my vw guru by the looks of things

http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/
or come see me at work....

I sure you can swap to 256mm by swapping carriers and calipers on the mk3. not like the mk2 8v.

I had a 1.4 ibiza i broke which looked like parts where transferable anyway and they are a missmatch of mk2 and 3 stuff

I have a pair of 256mm calipers and carriers for £20 so swapping would be cheap option.

best to show us all a pic of your hub without the wheel on so we can advise better

CaddyRage wrote:

I sure you can swap to 256mm by swapping carriers and calipers on the mk3. not like the mk2 8v.

I had a 1.4 ibiza i broke which looked like parts where transferable anyway and they are a missmatch of mk2 and 3 stuff

I have a pair of 256mm calipers and carriers for £20 so swapping would be cheap option.

best to show us all a pic of your hub without the wheel on so we can advise better

may have to take you up on that dude, il try tonight provided my scissor jack can get under the car without someone lifting the arch ^^

well if you get a pic up before tommorrow evening and they look like they'll go on then i'll bring them with me along with the starter motor if you still need one

CaddyRage wrote:

well if you get a pic up before tommorrow evening and they look like they'll go on then i'll bring them with me along with the starter motor if you still need one

yeah il take one when i get back from work so it will be up about 7ish. yeah mate i need that starter motor desperately the one im running will die very soon

yeah i think they have seperate carriers but i wasnt 100% certain thats why i said they could be part of the hub like some mk2s. If they have seperate carriers(look for 2 17mm bolts holding it onto the hub then lee's calipers and carriers will fit.

Tiz wrote:

yeah i think they have seperate carriers but i wasnt 100% certain thats why i said they could be part of the hub like some mk2s. If they have seperate carriers(look for 2 17mm bolts holding it onto the hub then lee's calipers and carriers will fit.

lol damnit you had to say that just as i left work. yeah i know theres 2 bolts there dude

well if you get lee to bring the brakes with him im sure either me or him will have a quick check on your car for you to see if they are right.

are your ones any better max now you have let the, wear in? lol

meant to ask actually - what did you do in the end? upgrade parts or go for uprated discs/pads?

Ashley wrote:

meant to ask actually - what did you do in the end? upgrade parts or go for uprated discs/pads?

he has the standard discs and pads, reason why it didnt stop to well is that the pads hadnt worn flat yet... lol

tbh you dont need to up rate the discs that and Mk3 gti brakes wont fit unless you want to change the hubs over, just get genuine brake pads
and bed them in porpperly